As I gear up for Thanksgiving dinner, my thoughts turn to refrigerator space. It’s at a premium, to put it mildly. The more ingredients and completed dishes I can leave out on the counter, the better.
But I’m big on food safety and would rather be safe than sorry. Do I have to refrigerate pies?
I’d like my Thanksgiving dinner to be memorable for the good time family and friends enjoyed, not their recollections of recovery from food poisoning.
This year, I’m making pumpkin and pecan pies. My friend Jill (of copycat Cosi salad fame) will bring apple crisp. Do I have to use precious refrigerator space for the pies and apple crisp? My instinct was that I have to refrigerate the fully cooked pumpkin pie has to be refrigerated, but not the pecan pie and apple crisp.
But I was wrong and here’s why.
By the way, the Nestlé Company (Libby’s brand canned pumpkin) gives advice I wouldn’t follow concerning refrigerating pumpkin pies, but we’ll get to that in a minute.
Which Baked Pies Have to be Refrigerated?
- If a pie contains milk, cream and or eggs, refrigerate it. This includes milk and cream in any form – (no matter what the fat content), buttermilk, sour cream, and cream cheese. Also, refrigerate pies containing evaporated or condensed milk products. Those ingredients contain high levels of protein and moisture that are fertile grounds for the growth of bacteria.
- What pies contain milk, cream or eggs? Check your recipe. Typically pumpkin and pecan pies do contain eggs, but fruit pies do not. Lemon meringue and all types of chiffon pies contain eggs, so they have to be refrigerated.
- How does refrigeration help? Refrigeration prevents the growth of bacteria, although not indefinitely as the occasional science experiment at the back of my refrigerator (a/k/a a forgotten container of leftovers from a long forgotten meal) attest.
- Refrigerate pie quickly. After baking, refrigerate the pie once it is cool enough to handle. Then, as you bring it back to room temperature for serving, only leave the pie out for 2 hours or less. In other words, don’t leave the pies out all day prior to Thanksgiving dinner, whether you make them the day before or bake them in the morning. Ugh – the refrigerator space they’ll take up! But at least now I know I have to plan that they’ll occupy a narrow refrigerator shelf for most of Thursday.
- Why do you see pumpkin and pecan pies sitting out, unrefrigerated, in groceries and bakeries? Those pies contain preservatives and shelf-stable ingredients that allow them to be displayed and stored at room temperature. Commercially prepared pies that can be sold at room temperature should display an “RT” label; in any event they should be refrigerated after opening.
What advice from Nestlé wouldn’t I follow? On its site, the company says:
How do I store a pumpkin pie once baked? After baking, pie should be left at room temperature as the cooling process normally takes 2-4 hours. Within 4 hours, the pie should then be placed in the refrigerator. Cover loosely with plastic wrap until serving. Pie may be refrigerated for 2-3 days.
But leaving a pumpkin pie on the counter for 4 hours is against the recommendations of the American Egg Board and the FDA. Both of them recommend refrigerating home-baked pumpkin pies within 2 hours. The Q&A does refer specifically to cooling after baking, and the Egg Board and FDA recommendations are more general.
Still I’d go with the shorter time, especially because bacteria like warmer temperatures. Leaving the pie out for 4 hours might not sicken you or your guests, but do you really want to take that risk?
Update PS – In 2018 I made 2 pies, a sour cream pumpkin
and a chocolate pecan slab pie.
Although neither was a work of art visually, both were delicious. (The former is from Epicurious with a crust from Stella Park’s new book, Iconic American Desserts, and the latter from Cathy Barrow’s new book, Pie Squared.) I didn’t have enough room in the refrigerator to store them, so I kept them on an unheated porch, which stayed about 40-45 degrees. While you can’t leave food where animals can get at it, a cold, enclosed porch that stays cold but doesn’t get below 32 degrees can work just fine in a pinch.
On Wednesday, Part 2 of this public service message – more helpful hints on how to stay safe and happy through the holiday. No food porn or yet-another-way-to-make-cranberry sauce – just news you can use.